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the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president obama says it a lot. the average family will end up spending $2,000 more if the fiscal cliff is not averted. let me show you something. you can find out how it would impact you directly by using this. there's a lot of numbers you have to plug in to make sense of it. obviously it can't be exact, it can't be precise, it can't predict the future, but i want to show you some examples we have pulled out. let's go to the graphic here that has a few of the examples we're showing you here. it would take, for example, this scenario, married with no
the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president...
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and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you tax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk little bit about competitiveness. let's detail that. low capital gains is important to our nation's competitiveness. but also, to the competitiveness of these companies that we are talking about. >> absolutely. let's say that you are a young indian or chinese entrepreneur with a science degree or engineering degree and you gradua from mit. you want to start a high-tech company. would you started in the united states, where you're getting from your company years down the road will be taxed at 30%, or would you started in china or india where the capital gains tax rate is zero? many of our major partners have zero
and they are taxed again at the individual level. with the dividend and capital gains taxes. george bush, to his credit, tried to do something about that and he chopped the dividend and capital gains tax down to 15%. the effect of that was to reduce the incentive for corporations to take on too much debt. if you tax equity too much, corporations take on too much debt. then it's more likely that they become bankrupt and to destabilize the whole system. gerri: you talk little bit about...
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people dumped tax returns, pictures of old lovers and anything that wreaks of 2012. a giant shredder, a dumpster and a rubber mallet were on hand to help people complete their mission. the event really is to say good- bye to past worries and fears. >>> a california -- california fans of the 1950s, '60s and '70s have a new way to show it, on cars. the dmv will start selling replica license plate designs from those years and the plates aren't just for classic car owners. they can be ordered for any type of vehicle. >> you can have it on your prius, you can have it on your -- you know, your new camaro. you can have it on anything, right? >> that's cool. a new way for california to make money. the legacy license plates cost $50 whether you personalize them or not. they're available to preorder starting on january 1st. i like that good riddance day. >> you know, the first car i ever bought, my '64mgb which we used on "eye on the bay," i had it in high school and it still has the first license plates. >> really. >> it came with it. i didn't buy it when it was new. i just s
people dumped tax returns, pictures of old lovers and anything that wreaks of 2012. a giant shredder, a dumpster and a rubber mallet were on hand to help people complete their mission. the event really is to say good- bye to past worries and fears. >>> a california -- california fans of the 1950s, '60s and '70s have a new way to show it, on cars. the dmv will start selling replica license plate designs from those years and the plates aren't just for classic car owners. they can be...
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the payroll tax holiday. maybe you don't give the whole amount, just part of it. it adds up to $200 billion so the economy continues to grow. then the debt reduction is raised by february. >> mr. davis. he started his comment about solving this saying you have to take the politics out of it. it's not possible at this point. even though the deal, everything you heard from him, you may have agreed with and go along with it. how are you going to take the politics out of it with the clock ticking? >> if you don't get an agreement, it's going to hurt both parties. somebody may have the advantage today and tomorrow in the news headlines, if this doesn't happen, it hurts the president's legacy, it hardens the lines between them. this is not, as joe said, complicated to solve over the short term. long term, a little more complicated. if they can't get through this, it makes it much more difficult over the long term. >> to both of you here, you heard something the president said. david gregory pushed back on the presi
the payroll tax holiday. maybe you don't give the whole amount, just part of it. it adds up to $200 billion so the economy continues to grow. then the debt reduction is raised by february. >> mr. davis. he started his comment about solving this saying you have to take the politics out of it. it's not possible at this point. even though the deal, everything you heard from him, you may have agreed with and go along with it. how are you going to take the politics out of it with the clock...
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trying to cut taxes. if you are not happy to have -- >> bob: i think the republicans trying to do something good is absurd. >> greg: look at harry reid. eloquence of a bails bondman. we elected gluttons to guard a fridge. >> kimberly: midnight raiding it. i was thinking frat boy to guard the bar but i went with the glutton. >> eric: both sides, though. >> andrea: the republicans can't do anything. they get blamed for everything. everything we agree with is courageous. >> greg: when private unemployment reaches double digits. >> andrea: coming up, mayor rahm emanuel -- rahm. why did i call him that? tore in nra for calling armed guards at school to keep america's chirp safe. greg will tell us why that is ironic for him and why the nickname is "ram" next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: according to bretbaffert news, the school has armed police officer. any sane parent would like that. like mayor rahm emanuel who sends the children to the school. or he said it's wrong to allow the same thing
trying to cut taxes. if you are not happy to have -- >> bob: i think the republicans trying to do something good is absurd. >> greg: look at harry reid. eloquence of a bails bondman. we elected gluttons to guard a fridge. >> kimberly: midnight raiding it. i was thinking frat boy to guard the bar but i went with the glutton. >> eric: both sides, though. >> andrea: the republicans can't do anything. they get blamed for everything. everything we agree with is...
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one that protects the middle class from a tax hike. >> reporter: following the high stakes meeting on friday, senate appears to be poise. >> we will work hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful and optimistic. >> i will do everything that i can. i am confident senator will do the same. but everybody, whatever we come up with will be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less but that is where we are. >> reporter: accept at majority leader reid called senate not to meet on saturday while leaders negotiate. boehner said he will not bring anything in the house unless it passes senate. if it fails to pass, every american will see a tax rate increase and unemployment benefits will go away. >> ordinary people do their jobs, meet deadlines, they sit down and discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements they sort through the disagreements. the in addition that our elected leadership can not do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and it needs to stop. >> reporter: in washington,. >>> on wall street, stocks
one that protects the middle class from a tax hike. >> reporter: following the high stakes meeting on friday, senate appears to be poise. >> we will work hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. i am hopeful and optimistic. >> i will do everything that i can. i am confident senator will do the same. but everybody, whatever we come up with will be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less but that is where we are. >>...
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we have a current tax rate, 15%. on january 1, the capital gains tax ra will jump to 23.8%. i talked to a lot of my frien and they say that's not a big dumb. what you say? >> it is a big jump. if you add state taxes on top of that, the united states will be up to 20%. our major trading partners, britain and europe and canada -- they are oly 16%. so there is a very good reason why just about every industrial country has a really low capital gains tax rate. that's because policymakers just about everywhere know that low capital gains tax rates are crucial for a growthof economy and entrepreneurship and high-technology industries. gerri: so what if we compare favorably with a lot of developed countries out there -- what would be the practical effect? >> it will slow the flow of venture capital and investment for high-technology companies. if you think about every major high-tech company like apple or microsoft or ebay or amazon, they were all nurtured by high income people putting money in early on to these startup companies. we dramatically cut the capital gains ta rate from 4
we have a current tax rate, 15%. on january 1, the capital gains tax ra will jump to 23.8%. i talked to a lot of my frien and they say that's not a big dumb. what you say? >> it is a big jump. if you add state taxes on top of that, the united states will be up to 20%. our major trading partners, britain and europe and canada -- they are oly 16%. so there is a very good reason why just about every industrial country has a really low capital gains tax rate. that's because policymakers just...
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payroll tax will go away almost certainly. your payroll tax is almost smaller. gerri: your first paycheck will be smaller in the new year, right? >> no question. it will try to avoid the first paycheck, and for the bush tax cuts, but there's no guarantee they can keep i that up for very long. this is a story where the checks get smaller and the economy is weaker very quickly. gerri: let's talk about entitlement programs and the impact on them. social security will have a deficit this year of $6 billion yet again. can't keep up with social security. what is the longer-term impact of what is going on on these programs? >> we really do need to have a deal on a big problem, which is the national debt larger than the economy, driven by broken entitlement programs. medicare has a huge deficit, $300 billion every year. 10,000 new beneficiaries every day. medicaid deficit finance right now. those are key parts of a safe bet that we'll b will be fallinr their own financial weight unless they are fixed. what we really have to do on behalf of the next generation. gerri: th
payroll tax will go away almost certainly. your payroll tax is almost smaller. gerri: your first paycheck will be smaller in the new year, right? >> no question. it will try to avoid the first paycheck, and for the bush tax cuts, but there's no guarantee they can keep i that up for very long. this is a story where the checks get smaller and the economy is weaker very quickly. gerri: let's talk about entitlement programs and the impact on them. social security will have a deficit this year...
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we are talking about every american's tax rates who pays taxes, talking about the extension of unemployment, the estate tax this has more elements in it than most things do i think at the end of the day, you know, in the senate now, i think the senate will come to some sort of arrangement, they will push it over here and then i think the house will be the decisive arena, a lot will depend, obviously, on what the senate agrees to >> isn't that the question what will happen in the house? i don't think we have a concern, maybe i shouldn't stay quite that way, the house seems to be the clear focus on whether or not republicans can muster the votes needed. what is going to happen? >> a lot depends on the nature of the agree weren't, remember on the speakers a plan b, he had over 200 republican votes are, it is not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal that john boehner can accept, then frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if, on the other hand, he is either neutral or not favorable, then his chances are going to be
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the tax rate. no matter what it is on the rich or not on the rich will not solve the big huge impending doom. >> that's right exactly right. you said it. the latest proposal from the president, of course, did not have the kind of long and short-term and mid term spending reform that we need. the federal government right now is it as we all know, spending more than a trillion dollars year upon year since the president took office, more than a trillion over budget year upon year. that has to stop. >> and you are putting faith in harry reid to come back with some proposal that will meet that in the next six days? where are you? >>ist a good question. senator reid without the past two years has not worked in -- in any very productive way with the house majority. and we do in the house represent the american people, at least as much as the senate majority does and we do need to work together and you are right. we have had roadblocks and obstructions and ignoring the bills we sent over time and time agai
the tax rate. no matter what it is on the rich or not on the rich will not solve the big huge impending doom. >> that's right exactly right. you said it. the latest proposal from the president, of course, did not have the kind of long and short-term and mid term spending reform that we need. the federal government right now is it as we all know, spending more than a trillion dollars year upon year since the president took office, more than a trillion over budget year upon year. that has...
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taxes shurnt go up. if they were to go up by law, conceivably they could come back in january and lower them and campaign on the fact that they lowers taxed. >> let's take a look at what speaker boehner said on friday. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the fundamental reform of our taxes will help get our economy moving faster and get more americans back to work. how we get there, god only knows. >> so the president says he's going to head back to washington after christmas to try and hammer out a deal before new year's. babe boehner said god only knows, god and ed o'keefe. how do they get there? >> for practical reasons there, are bills sitting in either chamber right now that the other chamber has passed, the house is telling the senate, pass our bill. the senate is telling the house pass our bill. either of those bills could be amended and sent back across the capitol, and make some changes, and send it back for final passage and sent send it to the president. can you get that done in
taxes shurnt go up. if they were to go up by law, conceivably they could come back in january and lower them and campaign on the fact that they lowers taxed. >> let's take a look at what speaker boehner said on friday. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the fundamental reform of our taxes will help get our economy moving faster and get more americans back to work. how we get there, god only knows. >> so the president says he's going to head back to washington...
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details on a brand-new sales tax. and senator libbedy graham has been an outspoken critic of president barack obama for years. but what is he saying today? >> if the president doesn't deal with this, he is a lousy commander in chief. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you realldon't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it findone, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all youeed is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> you are not only going to cut your way to prosperity. >> we have not seen the leade
details on a brand-new sales tax. and senator libbedy graham has been an outspoken critic of president barack obama for years. but what is he saying today? >> if the president doesn't deal with this, he is a lousy commander in chief. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. time for...
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another tax you'll see rise is the estate tax. cbs reporter john blackstone shows us how tumbling off the fiscal cliff could destroy the legacy of a napa valley vineyard. >> reporter: when his great grandfather started farming her in the late 1800s... >> they farmed orchard fruit and cattle. >> reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone, sold, to pay estate taxes after his grandfather's death. >> had to sell all of it. >> estate taxes? >> yes. >> reporter: his grandfather died in 1972 when estate taxes were at an all-time high, 77%. >> it was a big tax bill. it was, you know, half a million dollars. we sold off 150 acres. it gave us something to pay the tax with. >> reporter: now, jeff and his wife marry worry their dream of passing the land on to their two daughters will be ruined by the fiscal cliff. the estate tax rate would rise from 35 to 55% on estates worth over $1 million. at today's prices in the napa valley, the land could easily be worth $8 million. >> you're wealthy, but it's all in the dirt. we're dirt rich,
another tax you'll see rise is the estate tax. cbs reporter john blackstone shows us how tumbling off the fiscal cliff could destroy the legacy of a napa valley vineyard. >> reporter: when his great grandfather started farming her in the late 1800s... >> they farmed orchard fruit and cattle. >> reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone, sold, to pay estate taxes after his grandfather's death. >> had to sell all of it. >> estate taxes? >> yes....
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and if no agreement, taxes will go up for all americans. in fact, the average american family would see a tax increase of more than $3400. as congress convened, even the senate chaplain praying to avoid what the president called self-inflicted wounds. let's bring in jon carl. the source has told you the vice president has been called in on this. >> reporter: that's right. i'm told the vice president is now playing a direct role in these negotiations, trying to get to a deal, a last-minute deal, a key player in the final hours. president obama set off the high-stakes weekend scramble friday night imemployering congressional leaders to take action immediately. >> the american people are not going to have any patience fora i politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> reporter: with that harry reid and mitch mcconnell launched a latch-dimp effort to craft a bipt plan to that stop the tax hike going into effect on new year's day. they negotiated all day saturday. saturday night there was an offer. by this morning, a clear sense of optim
and if no agreement, taxes will go up for all americans. in fact, the average american family would see a tax increase of more than $3400. as congress convened, even the senate chaplain praying to avoid what the president called self-inflicted wounds. let's bring in jon carl. the source has told you the vice president has been called in on this. >> reporter: that's right. i'm told the vice president is now playing a direct role in these negotiations, trying to get to a deal, a last-minute...
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they would raise taxes on 11 million middle-class tax payers. there is silence, stone hearted silence on 2 million unemployed workers looking for work who would lose their insurance immediately on december 29. silence on the 27%. in a deeply cynical move, so cynical, the republicans have decided to offer another bill to put off some of the sequester. they pay for it how? deep and ugly cuts impacting seniors, kids. the republicans are tying themselves into knots. in doing so, they are tying into knots the chances for our nation not going over the cliff. vote no on these bills that take us backward, that undercut trust, that increase the chances of going over the fiscal cliff. this is not a plan. this is a ploy. >> i would like to inquire of my friend how many speakers she has remaining. it looks like a couple. i will reserve the balance of my time. >> i would be happy to tell you. four. >> the gem and reserves. >> thank you. three minutes right now. the gentleman from massachusetts. >> recognize for three minutes. >> thank you for the time. just
they would raise taxes on 11 million middle-class tax payers. there is silence, stone hearted silence on 2 million unemployed workers looking for work who would lose their insurance immediately on december 29. silence on the 27%. in a deeply cynical move, so cynical, the republicans have decided to offer another bill to put off some of the sequester. they pay for it how? deep and ugly cuts impacting seniors, kids. the republicans are tying themselves into knots. in doing so, they are tying into...
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and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case known and actually go on the record. that's why the question is would the republican senators who would oppose
and the estate tax. it goes on. it goes on. it goes on. why, david jackson, haven't people started screaming from the streets and screaming from the rooftops about what this mean, this is a manufactured crisis. >> well, they haven't felt it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal...
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would pay more in payroll taxes. families making between 40 and $65,000 a year would pay an extra two grand or so to the government. gregg: the big question, do lawmakers hope to get anything out of the last minute fiscal cliff talks or is it just for show? democratic congressman chris van hollen is the ranking member of the house budget committee. he will be joining us live coming up in the next hour what he really thinks is going on. patti ann: well the u.s. economy meanwhile could suffer yet another major blow. looming strikes at ports from next sass to boston are threatening to put thousands of americans out of work. with potential losses for u.s. businesses ranging in the billions. >> the port of baltimore is one of maryland's largest economic generators. any type of work action that may result in a suspension or stoppage of work would have an adverse effect. >> we handle more cars, we handle more farm and construction equipment than any other u.s. port. patti ann: we're learning that adverse effect could take a
would pay more in payroll taxes. families making between 40 and $65,000 a year would pay an extra two grand or so to the government. gregg: the big question, do lawmakers hope to get anything out of the last minute fiscal cliff talks or is it just for show? democratic congressman chris van hollen is the ranking member of the house budget committee. he will be joining us live coming up in the next hour what he really thinks is going on. patti ann: well the u.s. economy meanwhile could suffer yet...
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, instead just voting to reinstate a tax cut, that then it sort of president obama's tax cut so he gets credit for that. >> do you have any sense of what will happen around that table today? who called the meeting if there's an agenda or are they going to sit around and stare at each other until one of them blinks? >> we don't have a sense. i'm sure that we will be getting a sense. this is supposed to take place at 3:00 p.m. at the white house. the vice president, president and four top congressional leaders. we don't know what will be said. i think we will likely hear from some camps afterwards. >> if you are wondering what a trip down the fiscal cliff might mean for your paycheck, for your 401(k), look no further than yesterday's dow. at the opening bell, a dive of more than 1%. investors finding little hope for the fiscal cliff compromise on capitol hill. when word came down two sides might be meeting. reversal of fortune. the dow rebounding for a while before finishing slightly lower. >>> a nation this morning remembering the american general credited with orchestrating one of the m
, instead just voting to reinstate a tax cut, that then it sort of president obama's tax cut so he gets credit for that. >> do you have any sense of what will happen around that table today? who called the meeting if there's an agenda or are they going to sit around and stare at each other until one of them blinks? >> we don't have a sense. i'm sure that we will be getting a sense. this is supposed to take place at 3:00 p.m. at the white house. the vice president, president and four...
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our state's pay high taxes. when were there when katrina victims, that's beside the point of red or blue states. you do what you have to do. that's what needs to be done right now. not only is the budget critical right now, sandy's critical and a lot of other thing that is need to be done there. amt. >> all right. >> look at the folks -- >> congressman. >> don't have a payroll. >> congressman, i have to cut you off. >> okay. >> but thank you so much. >> thank you, craig. >> keep us posted on the progress if there is any. >>> we have developing news now from the senate. just moments ago, vice president joe biden swore in hawaii's lieutenant governor brian schatz as the state's new u.s. snr. >> do you swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of
our state's pay high taxes. when were there when katrina victims, that's beside the point of red or blue states. you do what you have to do. that's what needs to be done right now. not only is the budget critical right now, sandy's critical and a lot of other thing that is need to be done there. amt. >> all right. >> look at the folks -- >> congressman. >> don't have a payroll. >> congressman, i have to cut you off. >> okay. >> but thank you so much....
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people are factoring in -- my tax benefits, maybe my taxes will be raised by $22 million a year come january and is having a downdraft on the economy. very irresponsible. i want this solve the. >> dennis: your democratic colleagues said the problem is division among republicans and thought that was a republican/democrat thing. >> it is both. there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. democrats are to blame for eat the ridge ideological crusade, the congressional budget office and ernst and young warned will destroych ideological crusade, the congressional budget office and ernst and young warned will destroy 2,700,000 middle-class jobs and republicans should try to save as many people as possible. that is the impasse and ultimately the leadership of the house is responsible for not having the house in session right now to be hammering this out. marcy and i can trade charges back-and-forth on tv but we are not in the same room to actually deliver 8 -- deliberate as the legislative process is designed to do. i am embarrassed to be in my district when the house should be in was
people are factoring in -- my tax benefits, maybe my taxes will be raised by $22 million a year come january and is having a downdraft on the economy. very irresponsible. i want this solve the. >> dennis: your democratic colleagues said the problem is division among republicans and thought that was a republican/democrat thing. >> it is both. there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides. democrats are to blame for eat the ridge ideological crusade, the congressional budget...
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that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time lawmakers got a pay raise was in 2009. >>> this morning, i want to tell you about the fact that we know the name of a man pushed to his death at a new york city subway station now. he's identified as 46-year-old dusend. a sketch of the suspect. she's described as a heavy set woman in her 20s who was wearing a ski jacket and sneakers. poppy harlow has more on the investigation for us. >> it was horrible. >> reporter: this man says he heard the final scream of the victim. james callanan's train was halted. >> they said last stop on the train, debris fell on the tracks. >> reporter: witnesses say the victim was standing on the edge of this subway platform in queens when a woman who was pacing and talking to herself pushed him on the tracks. surveillance footage captured this woman running from the station. police are searching for the woman they describe as heavy set in her 20s wea
that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time lawmakers got a pay raise was in 2009. >>> this morning, i want to tell you about the fact that we know the name of a man pushed to his death at a new york city subway station now. he's identified as 46-year-old dusend. a sketch of the suspect. she's described as a heavy set woman in her 20s who was wearing a ski jacket and sneakers. poppy...
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that is tax cut over 250, it's a tax increase. senator mcconnell may be trying to move that to $400,000. >> arthel: and then the notion of lowering social security payments is definitely off the table in terms of democrats' side? >> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that woul
that is tax cut over 250, it's a tax increase. senator mcconnell may be trying to move that to $400,000. >> arthel: and then the notion of lowering social security payments is definitely off the table in terms of democrats' side? >> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have...
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that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are set to expire, $110 billion worth of spending cuts kick in, and two million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. for the first time, leader reid said today that it looks like the nation is going to go over the fiscal cliff, but that may just have been bluster, jeff, to try to put more pressure on republicans. >> glor: so, nancy, the house coming back on sunday. is that a good sign? >> reporter: well, it is in the sense that if the senate does manage to pass something, the house would be here to vote on it, as well. originally, speaker boehner had told his members that he would give them 48 hours' notice if they were needed back here at the capitol, but there was a recognition, i think, that it just looked bad for the house to be gone when we were so close to the fiscal cliff deadline. >> glor: nancy cordes, thank you. major garrett has been following developments at the white house. major, what is the president's next move? >> reporter: it is not a breakthrough but it is a
that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are set to expire, $110 billion worth of spending cuts kick in, and two million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. for the first time, leader reid said today that it looks like the nation is going to go over the fiscal cliff, but that may just have been bluster, jeff, to try to put more pressure on republicans. >> glor: so, nancy, the house coming back on sunday. is that a good...
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the cliff won't just stop at taxes. some fear banks will tighten up on consumer lending, meaning you might not be able to get the new loan for a car or a home. with me now is sheila bair, the former chairman of the fdic and author of the new book "take the bullhe horns." thanks for coming on with me. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama met with top party leaders friday saying he was moderately optimistic. with your washington negotiation experience, where do you really think they are in the process? are you really any closer to a deal, or is this just more posturing? >> i think this whole mess is really embarrassing spectacle. this should have been resolved long ago, and i do think, actually, they are going to get a deal, but i think it will be more along the lines of kicking the can down the road. i don't think, at least from this point what i'm hearing, we'll get meaningful debt reduction. certainly mot month-onot meaninx reform. perhaps a permanent restructure of the tax reforms those making under $150,000. t
the cliff won't just stop at taxes. some fear banks will tighten up on consumer lending, meaning you might not be able to get the new loan for a car or a home. with me now is sheila bair, the former chairman of the fdic and author of the new book "take the bullhe horns." thanks for coming on with me. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama met with top party leaders friday saying he was moderately optimistic. with your washington negotiation experience, where do you...
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the taxing authority. we have the constitutional authority and duty to go in there and tax and spend and create that budget. also we beat up obama and rightly so for the lack of transparency in the obama care debate and we are having four people negotiate the budget. put it back into paul ryan's hands and let's lead. >> i heard paul ryan's name mentioned. of course, his office, don't look at us. we support boehner. but look, if there was some revolt, if this thing is real and people will start mentioning ryan and it builds and builds and builds, i mean would he be somebody who said no to that? >> i think he would say no very quick. he might have other plans perhapses in 2016 and running for speaker, win, lose or draw would be bad for all those plans. i consider are this rahmer to be a three beer rumor which is after about the third beer people like we should replace boehner and that sounds like a good idea and repeat that enough and then it becomes a rumor. look, the staff i talked to on the hill, even the
the taxing authority. we have the constitutional authority and duty to go in there and tax and spend and create that budget. also we beat up obama and rightly so for the lack of transparency in the obama care debate and we are having four people negotiate the budget. put it back into paul ryan's hands and let's lead. >> i heard paul ryan's name mentioned. of course, his office, don't look at us. we support boehner. but look, if there was some revolt, if this thing is real and people will...
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the president's tax plan he campaigned on for five years which is to let the tax plan expire for households making less than $250,000. he would add unemployment insurance. the thinking here is he would potentially also add extending the estate tax cut. the estate tax has been at a relatively low level. it expires also at the ipd of the year. but, you know, this is all you know, to'ing and fro'ing right now to see if it's possible to pass anything to keep most americans' taxes where they are before the end of the year when everybody's tax go up. >> we heard from senator reid earlier today. they were dealing, in his words, with a dictatorship. are we expected to hear from him or any of the players from the hill in terms of trying to move this forward, whether it's publicly, in the public arena or privately? >> we are. we're told we should expect to hear from the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. the senate is in and he will likely take to the floor we're told and give a status report from his perspective. what we're talking about right now in the senate is whether or not the democrats
the president's tax plan he campaigned on for five years which is to let the tax plan expire for households making less than $250,000. he would add unemployment insurance. the thinking here is he would potentially also add extending the estate tax cut. the estate tax has been at a relatively low level. it expires also at the ipd of the year. but, you know, this is all you know, to'ing and fro'ing right now to see if it's possible to pass anything to keep most americans' taxes where they are...
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if they no taxes are going down, they will figure things. if they now taxes are staying the same, they will figure it out. right now it they are frozen -- they do not know. families are also in many ways frozen. they do not know whether they have to budget so that they will have $2,000 less next year. they do not know whether it will be $4,000. they do not now. the uncertainty is the fault of leaders who cannot get together. i think it is critical that we get a deal. i hope in the next couple of hours. to me -- somebody asked me, what is the difference if you get it now or five days from now? i say the difference is the uncertainty, this pall, an unnecessary and escalating crisis -- then you say, we do not have to do it now. we do it on the fourth. get it done. america wants us to get it done. the president has shown he is willing to be flexible. he has come out with some ideas i have had to except. he is willing. i know personally how strongly he feels that $250,000 should be where we draw the line in terms of tax breaks, but he was willing
if they no taxes are going down, they will figure things. if they now taxes are staying the same, they will figure it out. right now it they are frozen -- they do not know. families are also in many ways frozen. they do not know whether they have to budget so that they will have $2,000 less next year. they do not know whether it will be $4,000. they do not now. the uncertainty is the fault of leaders who cannot get together. i think it is critical that we get a deal. i hope in the next couple...
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so you need policy consensus, some tax reduction, some investment and education, and some tax breaks that will help sort of states specialize in different industries and attract them. >> let's end where we started. some criticisms coming out from ips saying the president has left some things on the table here. the estate taxes one of those that they bring to bear here. they also talk about hedge fund managers specifically being ability to get favorable tax rates there, too. how has the administration done with this? >> it's sort of paralysis on this issue. you know, the administration -- the republicans -- what we seed with a fiscal cliff and what we saw in our series is the ability to create consense politically is hurting us tremendously, economically. the earlier guest was talking about how these are self-inflected problems, and that's what's happening. tax rates will go up across the board. the condition does look like it will slip back, and it's a global change in the economy. again people with skills competing globally and doing very very well at the top. we're not addressing f
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but it will include the education tax credit and the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. these are refundable tax credits that affect mostly low-income people. so that will be on the table. but, you know, the republicans, the disdain that i have seen for poor people, from people who are struggling, like senior citizens on medicare and social security, for low-income people and the women, infant, and children program, we saw the republicans last week vote to spending cuts that would literally take food out of the mouths of hungry babies and in this country, you want to talk about crisis, fiscal crisis, et cetera, a crisis is that one out of five american children is hungry at some point during the year. that is just immoral. and they voted to even cut that. and so i agree with you. i think we have to talk about the consequences for real people. middle class, and as the president said tonight, those who aspire to the middle class. and that would include the unemployed right now, and we're going to extend unemployment insurance benefits. >> yeah, that's critical. gop source
but it will include the education tax credit and the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. these are refundable tax credits that affect mostly low-income people. so that will be on the table. but, you know, the republicans, the disdain that i have seen for poor people, from people who are struggling, like senior citizens on medicare and social security, for low-income people and the women, infant, and children program, we saw the republicans last week vote to spending cuts that...
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raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notoriously moves slowly. one wall street economist suggested, and this caught my attention, bun ji jump off the cliff. meaning we'll bounce back afterwards meaning once the tax hikes goes into effect congress will have no choice. they will have to introduce a bill that everyone can agree on. what's your take on that. what are your congressional sources saying to you privately? >> they are saying the betting money is on that right noug. it's an interesting way to put it. the whole concept of taking a vote in the next five days on anything would effectively would be to raise taxes. each of the senators would be taking a vote tha
raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notoriously moves slowly....
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tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a message and that is going to be the big question about who wins and long-run. jon: if we go over the cliff, i mean, everyone's paycheck, just about -- come january 1, it will be shrunk because government is going to be taking a much bigger chunk out of it. that will infuriate people. are they going to be blaming president obama? >> well, they won't be blaming president obama because polls show that they are blaming republicans. republicans are not really coming to the table. we had an election, and we had an election where voters clearly supporte
tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have...
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politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last week from a respiratory illness. he was 88 years old. following that the president went to visit the grave of his old grandfather who is buried at the very same cemetery. >> he will be missed and remembered, as he was on sunday. >>> christmas eve, of course. crunch time for holiday travelers. a big storm out west, delay
politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass...
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so there is absolutely no rea n reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very least, let's agree right now what we already agree on. let's get that done. >> what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead, he wants more spending, more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. >> bottom line, right now we're hearing a lot less talk about some sort of a grand bargain. and instead, maybe some stopgap measures to give some certainty to americans before that end of the year deadline. randi? >> and is it just the taxes that's holding out the agreement or something more at this point? >> it's hard to know exactly. it seems like the biggest sticking point that we are hearing discussed publicly remains those taxes. $250,000 that americans make before their tax, 400,000, $1 million, that number has been shifted back and forth a little bit over the past week. what we've seen still hasn't given us any sure answers. randi? >> what's the hope here at this point? whe
so there is absolutely no rea n reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very least, let's agree right now what we already agree on. let's get that done. >> what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead, he wants more spending, more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. >> bottom line, right now we're hearing a lot less talk about some sort of a grand...
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president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. >>> but in a last minnesota minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front, and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect, starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would exp
president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and...
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if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal in the next five days, automatic tax hikes and major spending cuts are set to kick in and economists warn that could trigger another recession. what else are we hearing from democrats on the hill? >> trace, very interesting comments from vice president joe biden up here for an unrelated matter about the fiscal cliff today. he says, essentially he was asked what do you think will pass? he said if you tell me what would attract republican support, i can tell you what would pass. if asked if he was optimistic, he said he was neither optimistic or pessimistic but was going back to talk to the president. the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with house republican leadership. >> american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating out the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: as you mentioned, trace, the speaker's spokesman said afterward, reid should focus on legisla
if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal in the next five days, automatic tax hikes and major spending cuts are set to kick in and economists warn that could trigger another recession. what else are we hearing from democrats on the hill? >> trace, very interesting comments from vice president joe biden up here for an unrelated matter about the fiscal cliff today. he says, essentially he was asked what do you think will pass? he said if you tell me what would attract republican...
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at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a vote by which the only way that vote would get over the legislative would be with a majority of democrats. he doesn't want to do that to preserve his job. once we go over the cliff, we can possibly do more of a bungee jump if we reverse the damage quickly. in that vote republicans don't have to vote for a tax increase, which to me is absolutely ridiculous in terms of serving the economy and the country, but i guess the politics makes sense to some of these guys. >>> jared bernstein, thank you. the storm is coming. look at that storm, the symptom is coming behind you. >> you weren't talking about a fiscal
at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a...
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and all tax rates will go up on income tax and estate taxes and all the bad stuff will happen, and how that's good politics. >> look, politicians are creatures of narrow self-interest. from the self-interested standpoint of a republican house member from a safe district who fears a primary challenge, yes, it's better for them to wait three days, cast -- go over the cliff, cast a vote to cut taxes and basically screw all the people who are going to be affected by it preserving their own jobs than it is to agree to a tax increase now and risk the wrath of the tea party right two years from now. >> chris, let me ask you about another possible, i hope it doesn't happen. next tuesday or next wednesday when the market reopens on january 2nd and they fully realize at that point that this cliff has been gone over and the congress has failed to meet its own targets which it set itself when it set this cliff up, who will pay the price if, say, the market drops 500 or 1,000 points and keeps dropping for two or three days and that creates the chances for a second dip, a second recession? who will
and all tax rates will go up on income tax and estate taxes and all the bad stuff will happen, and how that's good politics. >> look, politicians are creatures of narrow self-interest. from the self-interested standpoint of a republican house member from a safe district who fears a primary challenge, yes, it's better for them to wait three days, cast -- go over the cliff, cast a vote to cut taxes and basically screw all the people who are going to be affected by it preserving their own...
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not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate im
not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made,...
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income taxes are not the only major issues here. we go over the cliff, the tax rate on most capital gains would go from 15 to 20%. dividends would now be taxed like regular income instead of capital ganls. the inheritance tax, that would go from 35% on estates over $5 million to 55% on estates over a million bucks. so a lot of implications here not just on regular income taxes. michelle. >> got it, jackie. good way to lay out the situation. investors acting on their fiscal cliff nerves. this is the first time since the dow has dipped. a deal has been priced in. a lot of people thought something was going to happen. harry reid said we're probably going over the cliff. check out the wall street fear index. they have spiked above 20 for the first time since july. if this is what we're facing, how much worse can the fall get? jackie laid it all out, right? the average individual will have a lot less money to spend and we are a consumer-driven economy. a lot of action down there on the floor. >> people excited. >> is the market acting in
income taxes are not the only major issues here. we go over the cliff, the tax rate on most capital gains would go from 15 to 20%. dividends would now be taxed like regular income instead of capital ganls. the inheritance tax, that would go from 35% on estates over $5 million to 55% on estates over a million bucks. so a lot of implications here not just on regular income taxes. michelle. >> got it, jackie. good way to lay out the situation. investors acting on their fiscal cliff nerves....
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it is not the worst thing if we can suddenly raise our are sent to joe tax rates -- of tax rates. the center is boehner and obama and the other leadership posts there publicly saying no, no. you cannot go over this. we should stop this. host: barbara from texas. caller: thank you for taking my call this morning. merry christmas. i have been listening to c-span a lot. i have got some comments and one question. i do believe that we need to go over a physical cliff. doing a deal at the end of the year is getting old because everything is rushed. we need to sit back and go over the cliff and let these guys see if they cannot work out a deal. so far they have not been able to do it for the last four years. i do believe that we need to stay at 18% to 20% gdp. as far as cuts, we have never really gotten the cuts that we were supposed to. that is like a sequester. that was passed in 2011. they are still working on it. most of the cuts are based on the increases that are built in due to baseline. when we do cuts, we need to go back to a zero baseline. caller: their collars are incredibly w
it is not the worst thing if we can suddenly raise our are sent to joe tax rates -- of tax rates. the center is boehner and obama and the other leadership posts there publicly saying no, no. you cannot go over this. we should stop this. host: barbara from texas. caller: thank you for taking my call this morning. merry christmas. i have been listening to c-span a lot. i have got some comments and one question. i do believe that we need to go over a physical cliff. doing a deal at the end of the...
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john boehner could not even pass a tax proposal that he suggests over there where he would keep the taxes the same for everybody except people making over a million dollars a year. no, grover and the boys said no, you can't do that. so he didn't even bring it up for a vote. so i am here, i'm happy to listen to anything the speaker and the republican leader have. they have a way of getting the president, they don't need my help, i'm happy to work with them any way i can, but the way things have been going, it's not a real good escape hatch they have. they are out of town now. they will be back for two days, 48 hours, so that's where we are. Ñ k;e,e,hkaeÑ k;e,e,hkae two-thirds who starred at the four-year institution finish there. to the extent they are relying on debt to make college more affordable, they need the evidence to back it up. if the students were to hear that two-thirds of the students from this college or going to graduate or drop out with more debt than they can afford to pay, they might walk to a college that is less problematic on equal measure. but what is needed is not
john boehner could not even pass a tax proposal that he suggests over there where he would keep the taxes the same for everybody except people making over a million dollars a year. no, grover and the boys said no, you can't do that. so he didn't even bring it up for a vote. so i am here, i'm happy to listen to anything the speaker and the republican leader have. they have a way of getting the president, they don't need my help, i'm happy to work with them any way i can, but the way things have...
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>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries around the world have been cutting their tax rates. >> we grew faster when we had higher tax rates. >> let's just do it another reality check on this. which is that, whether we go over the cliff or have a scaled-down deal, we've got two things looming, a debt ceiling in probably two months which republicans will no doubt use as leverage. we still don't have a grand bargain that deals with deficit and debt by taking on tax reform and entitlement reform. what rational reason, stephen, first you, should we have that that other kick the can to another situation we're about to go off a cliff would produce any different result from a new congress? >> i'
>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries around the world...